It allows for higher velocities with softer lead bullets. This is followed by suitable papers for patching, determining suitable patch dimensions and the actual application thereof to the bullet. I have heard of using bore size bullets and i have also heard of using smaller than bore bullets, hopefully one of these guys here will kick in some help. We obtain good results using grooved bullets by sizing them before patching. Have a sharps in 4090sbn that i would like to start paper patch loading. Current theory dictates that the paper patch must fall off as it exits the muzzle for good accuracy. What they described in the movie would not have worked like they wanted it to. Now later in the movie they say the bullet was so jacked up after the arch bishop was killed they couldnt identify the bullet. Obturation is absolutely critical with paper patched bullets. Paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Chase was a black powder era bench shooter of some note who developed a single lap paper patch system for breech loaders.
Paperpatching your inline muzzleloader western powders. Top 10 greatest sniper scenes in movies 2017 see more. What diameter bullet would you recommend for use in my shiloh 4570 for paper patching. I do explain when asked that paper patching is not any different from copper jacketing a bullet. Remember that was hollywood, where they dont have to pay attention to reality. Ammunition part two the paper patch cartridge duration. A breech seater is used to load, the same as used to load a greasegroove bullet. They paper patched the used bullet they put in the electronic rifle so it would add any marks. Want to take the next step up the ladder of bullet casting.
I do believe he hit the 1200 yard target, by himself with m24 or m40 either one. Fact is i have had and sold half a dozen smooth sided moulds that were made for paper patching. Paul matthews hdldr 1990 bullet making annual paper patching the. Shooter script transcript from the screenplay andor the mark. This puppy is a transcript that was painstakingly transcribed using the screenplay andor viewings of the movie to get the dialogue. A top marine sniper who previously abandoned the military after a routine mission gave way to tragedy is doublecrossed by the government after reluctantly being pressured back into service in. Mile and a half, the bullets going to strike with more energy than a. May 17, 2016 the historical concept of paper patching can, i am certain, be found on the interwebs someplace.
My point was that there were some grooved or naked bullets in use and they werent all express loads. In the movie the shooter is paper patching really the answer to his question. This squeezing did have a small but perceptible positive effect on bullet quality and resultant accuracy. If you use my paper patch lube, make sure that it is as soft as butter when you apply it. How did the paper patching in the movie shooter actually work.
It was only with the introduction of long, spitzerpoint jacketed bullets that paperpatching lost favor. How did the paper patching in the movie shooter actually. And even paper patched some bullets for my 375 hh improved to shoot deer with. It was only with the introduction of long, spitzerpoint jacketed bullets that paper patching lost favor. All of the posts i found discussed paper patching as it iswas used in black powder guns. I have started to read a bit about paper patching, but a lot of the threads seem to start out with a lot of information about how to and dont seem to start with why to. I have long made and used paper cartridges for my cw type rifle muskets. My only criticism of it is that it is a book that will be used a lot initially by a novice paper patching shooter and, being a paperback, i would have liked it more durable. After swaggart left his home, no bullets could have been fired from his rifle altered firing pin. The single lap patch has the edges cut square unlike the angle edges of a doublelap patch, and the edges butt when wrapped on a bullet.
Sep 26, 2009 in shooter, the question was actually, how could a round fired from 1 weapon match a bullet from another, and paper patching was a process that could accomplish this. I have been paper patching for my m95 steyr with modest success. However, in the movie, they mention the fact that the bullett match was metallurgical, not ballistic, using the signature straitions of a barrell. What might have been done is to have fired the killing shot with paper patching so it couldnt be matched to any rifle and then just claimed it matched swaggarts barrel. Patching is the hand process of applying paper jackets. I remember this being mentioned in the movie shooter. Your tape method flies in the face of what is common knowledge among patch shooters. In order for it to work, the second gun would need a significantly larger bore than the first. The old man says they have used the paper patching method, which is wrapping a bullet in paper and shooting it, to shoot swaggers bullet from the rifle that killed the ethiopian archbishop. Paper patching grooved bullets paul matthews hdldr 1990 bullet making annual paper patch blts. The book is intended for shooters experienced in reloading black powder cartridge rifles that are ready to try their hand at shooting paper patched bullets. The gc paper patch groups were consistent, if you can call 4 consistent. Id cut a large batch of patches in front of the tv.
Check out the movie shooter the bad guys took a projectile shot at a can of stew, and then used paper patching to isolate the projectile from the rifling of the second weapon, and shoot the projectile at a priest from 2000yds standing next to the us president. Paper patching and forensic ballistics cast boolits. The projectile is cast to a diameter that is usually that of the. New paper patch approach by ed wosika linkedin slideshare. Paper patches can be used to make slightly undersized bullets fit a gun with. Long considered the bible of paper patching this book will take you step by step with a great deal of additional information. Paper patching in movie shooter page 2 the high road. Youll only need enough lube to cover the paper patch. No, like i told marathonman i dont think it was meant to be negative.
Next i had mountain molds make a 280 grain mold in. Matthews covers the casting, hardness and sizing of the bullet intended for paper patching and how it can be bumped up or swaged as need be. This squeezing did have a small but perceptible positive effect on bullet quality. Today i tried paper patching a 165 gr hollow point. The projectile is cast to a diameter that is usually that of. By paper patching this paper jacket would seem to isolate the bullet from the. The resized bullets were subsequently cleaned with solvent before patching. Most commercial bullet manufacturers use swaging in preference to casting, but bullet casting remains popular with handloaders. Shooter is a 2007 action thriller film based on stephen hunters 1993 novel. A beginners guide for learning to load and shoot paper patched bullets by randolph s. Watched this movie a few months ago and again tonight. Youre right the 45 28 appears to be one of those that was loaded with paper patch bullets pretty much exclusively. However, i do load and shoot black powder bp charged paper patched bullets ppbs exclusively for my sharps falling block and.
The megamite is especially useful for large bore calibers from. Finally, i have found some pritchett balls of the later. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load data. A top marine sniper who previously abandoned the military after a routine mission gave way to tragedy is doublecrossed by the government after reluctantly being pressured back into service in training day director antoine fuquas adaptation of stephen hunters novel point of. Shooter script transcript from the screenplay andor the. Having said that, it is something i would try as i like to keep an open mind. I was interested in using paper patched bullets for some. Paper patched or lubricated lead bullets can be swaged in two basic styles, the swc shoulder style shown here, and the smooth ogive style shown below. So, i thought i would give a quick explanation on the concept and then show my process. Enter your name, address, and billing information for prompt shipment. What might have been done is to have fired the killing shot with paperpatching so it couldnt be matched to any rifle and then just claimed it matched swaggarts barrel. I also made a patching jig so that the paper on the bullets were all the same.
Good morning, first off, i wouldnt recommend paper patch at all unless you can get with one of these guys here that have figured it all out to help you. Untold thousands of ppbs were made by the campfires during the 1880s. Most cast bullets are made of lead alloyed with tin and antimony. The most authoritative work on paper patched bullets. A lot of people are curious about paper patching bullets. The paper acts like a jacket and keeps the lead from smearing in the bore. Such a method would drastically decrease the accuracy of the shot, making it actually impossible to make accurate shots at farther distances, like doing. Paul matthews hdldr 1990 bullet making annual pure lead bullets at 1945 fps. If anyone has the movie, watch the special features of the movie, mark walhberg goes out to gunsite to practice and get instruction on how to actually fire all the weapons and the correct way to do it all.
Why would there be s need for paper patching in 1877. Is paper patching real for making bullets untraceable. In the movie the shooter is paper patching really the answer to his. With a slightly tongueincheek writing style, i demystify the paper patching enigma with a simple, stepbystep approach to reloading using offtheself components for shooting todays. A cast bullet is made by allowing molten metal to solidify in a mold. So they melted it down and compared it to the extra bullets in swaggers gun. I watched the movie again last night, and i thought about paper patching again.
But, i could never find any pritchett balls or justify the cost of a mold. We rely on a quality products, delivery and value for our customers. Oct 18, 2017 they paper patched the used bullet they put in the electronic rifle so it would add any marks. Refining paperpatched loads for smokeless powder load. However, the lead bullets i make for patching are designed to fit the diameter of the bore, not the groove, which means the paper patch is at least. I did some searching for threads about the paper patching incident in the movie shooter. Handloading and the geneva and hague accords page 2.
I dont get out much to see too many flicks at the theater and rarely watch them on tv but this was a cool movie. Jun 16, 2017 paper patching your inline muzzleloader june 16, 2017 shooting a paper patched bullet in your inline muzzleloader, using blackhorn 209 powder behind it, opens up a whole new way to shoot your rifle. Paper patch bullets leave engravingland marks the same as a copper. You will have to adjust the size of the bullet to be wrapped. Masking tape patched lead bullets carolina shooters club. Oct 14, 2016 paper patches let a shooter get the same velocities from lead bullets as with jacketed bullets. Perhaps this helps a little to get ya started, paper patch bullets are really cool to load and shoot just time consuming. Unfortunately hunting season is only 9 days here so i havent been able to test these babies on game. Instead of cutting molds of increasing diameters, one oversized mold was used in each caliber and the bullets were downsized with simple pushthrough bushings. We have our best results when patching bullets intended to be lubricated when they have a gas check shank. What is a good make of mould, prefer to get a custom built are adjustable moulds any good. In his march 1977 article paper patched bullets come of age, harrison provides a few rules for the shooter using a paper patch to obtain top velocities with poured slugs. Apr 27, 2012 remember that was hollywood, where they dont have to pay attention to reality. In the movie the ethiopian official is killed with a bullet that had been.
May 27, 2014 a top marine sniper who previously abandoned the military after a routine mission gave way to tragedy is doublecrossed by the government after reluctantly being pressured back into service in training day director antoine fuquas adaptation of stephen hunters novel point of impact. All through the movie swagger wahlberg keep changing his shooting hand. Followed by the same questions about how the paper survives in the barrel. Questions how much smaller than the bore does the mould have to be. As a ammunition manufacture, we load over 400 calibers. The paper i used was plain old letter writing paper. I also did some hunting rifle paper patching very successfully with my 358 win see other 35 cal thread. Can anyone provide an overview, or a couple of good links that explain it. Shooter script taken from a transcript of the screenplay andor the mark wahlberg movie. Why did they paper patch bullets in the movie shooter.
Finally, the shooter script is here for all you fans of the mark wahlberg movie. In the movie the shooter is paper patching really the. In the early 1900s, paper patching was the highest technology for accuracy. I also wipe my own loaded cartridges with a paper towel before boxing, to prevent dust and dirt from accumulating on the bullet. No bullets could have been fired from his rifle altered firing pin. Or, print your order after entering your address, attach. Danny glover and antoine fuqua in shooter 2007 mark wahlberg in. Knurling paper patch bullets to cure tumblingkeyhole. Ive had good success with these bullets and am very impressed with the whelens capabilities using paper patched bullets. Ive seen references to paper patching bullets off and on and never really understood what the idea was all about. Wouldnt putting paper around the bullet degrade accuracy. Cb shooter since the early 1980s, searching through the mysteries of paperpatched cast bullets ppcbs, as applied to modern rifles, has proven to be an offshoot of cb shooting that has ended up suggesting allnew rules, limitations, and possibilities. For the record, this is not my video or gun or cartridge load.
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